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[12:56:14] <caedes> eup
[12:56:39] <chuangzu> ey up lad
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[16:43:11] <Induane> having another go at compiling this derned peragro :D
[16:43:13] <Induane> ;)
[16:45:50] <Induane> I saw the new entity system branch
[16:45:54] <thebolt> hi Induane
[16:45:59] <Induane> hey :)
[16:46:03] <thebolt> ouch, don't try to compile that.. it is tricky :)
[16:46:12] <Induane> Was cel the default entity system before?
[16:46:19] <Induane> Nah I'm compiling the regular branch
[16:46:32] <Induane> getting a feel for it so I can make a build guide eventually
[16:46:32] <thebolt> well, yea.. there is more than entity stuff which will change once we get that branch going though ,)
[16:46:43] <Induane> such as?
[16:46:44] <Induane> :)
[16:47:15] <thebolt> everything :P
[16:48:09] <Induane> ...
[16:48:10] <Induane> ?
[16:48:11] <Induane> lol
[16:48:27] <Induane> gah cegui takes a while to compile
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[19:12:42] <sueastside> hey PT_ano-usr
[19:12:45] <sueastside> Induane: !!
[19:12:52] <sueastside> hey theboltEatingStu
[19:12:56] PT_ano-usr changed nick to: Jekkar
[19:13:10] <Induane> sueastside !!
[19:13:21] <Induane> Jekkar !!!
[19:13:32] <Induane> Mr. Texture!
[19:13:34] <Jekkar> Woops, uhm...wrong chat. Sorry people.
[19:13:51] <sueastside> stay, have a drink!
[19:14:21] <Jekkar> Right..
[19:15:14] * sueastside hands Jekkar an ice tea
[19:15:17] <Induane> lol
[19:15:24] * Induane devours Jekkar
[19:15:24] <Jekkar> I really must go, I don't even know what this chatroom is
[19:15:31] <Induane> :D
[19:16:28] <Jekkar> Yeah, I give you the greatest textures man can percieve. Too bad Induane always fucks them up though.
[19:16:30] <Jekkar> :]
[19:16:49] <sueastside> that bastard!
[19:17:05] <Jekkar> for some reason when he applies them to models they get all "weird"
[19:17:48] * sueastside picks up Induane by the neck and groin, lifts him above his head and drops him on his knee, breaking Induane's spine.
[19:18:05] <Jekkar> So in the end the best thing to do is just stop trying and let him applie his own crappy textures.
[19:18:19] <Induane> lol
[19:18:22] <Induane> :D
[19:18:23] <Induane> loser
[19:18:41] <Jekkar> that he creates in MSpaint
[19:18:42] <Induane> several of your textures are already in peragro svn Jekkar
[19:18:46] <Induane> hey!!
[19:18:51] <Jekkar> :)
[19:18:52] <Induane> mspaint? nash
[19:18:57] <Jekkar> nah
[19:18:59] <Jekkar> im just teasing
[19:19:04] <Induane> :(
[19:19:47] <sueastside> Jekkar: if you want a texturing challenge, i got some untextured stuff hanging around :) like http://hellemans.cyanox.nl/hell/screenshots/castle/castle5.JPG
[19:19:52] * Induane cries in a corner
[19:20:00] <Jekkar> he's probably scared as hell because i'm invading the only place he's away from me
[19:20:05] <Induane> the castle!
[19:20:25] <Jekkar> hey, give me the uvap and i'll fix you up the textures
[19:20:29] <Jekkar> uvmap*
[19:21:20] <Induane> well its alot of texture wrapping :)
[19:21:42] <Induane> A few times I've given Jekkar texture kits
[19:22:43] <sueastside> and...?
[19:23:18] <Induane> he made great textuers
[19:23:44] <Jekkar> they were alright
[19:23:54] <sueastside> heh south-korea has made a "Robot Ethics Charter" :)
[19:23:56] <Jekkar> nothing grand, induane just likes to exagerate
[19:24:09] <Induane> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/Downloads/lantern.zip stuff like that
[19:24:32] <Induane> makes it easier on people who don't do 3d to make textures for 3d stuff
[19:27:03] <Jekkar> http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lanternpu0.png
[19:27:04] <Jekkar> :)
[19:27:05] <sueastside> yeah cant really do that with the castle, its basicly just 4 textures, 3 tileable stones and roof and 1 windows+misc stuff, no actual uv paiting needed, just need the seperate stuff..
[19:27:43] <Jekkar> I can make textures separatly, you would need to apply them the way you think is best
[19:28:12] <Jekkar> but it's kinda weird to just fix up some textures without knowing how it will actually look
[19:29:07] <sueastside> true...
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[19:29:25] <Jekkar> The textures will look good though, that's not the problem
[19:30:04] <Induane> well - do you have the 4 tileable textures you used? give them to Jekkar and maybe he could throw together some based on those for what is needed
[19:30:17] <thebolt> hi sueastside
[19:30:29] <Jekkar> aye
[19:33:04] <sueastside> Induane: i just stole those to test some patterns, should finish uvmapping it first, wondering if i should let him take a look at the keep house texture, some people mentioned it was a 'bit saturated', oppinion?
[19:35:46] <Jekkar> Induane!
[19:35:46] <sueastside> Jekkar: the house texture is what im speaking about http://hellemans.cyanox.nl/hell/screenshots/keep/nightkeep3.jpg
[19:36:15] <Induane> sueastside I kind of like that look for it - but I know what they mean - very little color
[19:36:23] <Jekkar> they are right
[19:36:39] <sueastside> if you say so :)
[19:36:40] <Induane> I think they look good too. Fits the style
[19:36:42] <Jekkar> do you still have the texture?
[19:37:03] <sueastside> ofcourse
[19:37:09] <Jekkar> give it to me
[19:37:15] <sueastside> sec
[19:37:19] <Jekkar> please
[19:37:33] <Induane> lol
[19:37:39] <Jekkar> looks like you greyscaled the whole texture :P
[19:37:43] <Induane> don't pretend to be polite Jekkar ;)
[19:38:05] <Jekkar> induane :(
[19:39:32] <Induane> byw whats the embeded chat you all are using?
[19:39:57] <sueastside> you dont have to be polite to me, but if i ask you to spit out of your eye i expect you die trying!
[19:40:38] <Jekkar> im glad i dont have to listen to you then :)
[19:40:41] * Jekkar hugs Induane
[19:40:45] <sueastside> Jekkar: http://hellemans.cyanox.nl/hell/dumps/houses.png
[19:41:07] <Jekkar> ow god...dude...
[19:41:14] <sueastside> Jekkar: not directly, but i control Induane :P
[19:41:19] <Jekkar> please dont tell me your using real pictures for your textures
[19:41:30] <Jekkar> ow god
[19:41:31] <Jekkar> all is lost
[19:41:45] <Induane> ;)
[19:41:51] <Induane> I usually draw over real pictures
[19:41:57] * Jekkar runs around screaming
[19:42:02] <Induane> <3 Jekkar
[19:42:11] <sueastside> i never said i was a texture artist :P
[19:42:13] <Jekkar> why didnt you tell me about this induane
[19:42:26] <Jekkar> this texture is so bad
[19:42:30] <Jekkar> i mean...heeeeey
[19:42:46] <Jekkar> who's the main texturer here?
[19:42:49] <sueastside> feel free to fix it :)
[19:42:54] <sueastside> Jekkar: you are
[19:42:58] <Induane> haha :D
[19:43:01] <Jekkar> fix? you need to redo it all over
[19:43:17] <sueastside> well you know what to do then :)
[19:43:33] * Jekkar scratches his head
[19:43:43] <Jekkar> im not the main texturer here
[19:43:50] <Induane> Jekkar's greatest quality - no filter. He's always honest because he never tries to be nice
[19:43:51] <Induane> :D
[19:43:52] <Jekkar> unless you make me one
[19:43:54] * Induane hugs Jekkar
[19:44:02] * Induane grabs a wand
[19:44:02] * Jekkar is hugged
[19:44:10] <Induane> I dub thee texturedude
[19:44:16] * sueastside crowns Jekkar to be the main texturer
[19:44:28] * Jekkar kneels
[19:44:30] <Jekkar> My lord
[19:44:36] <Jekkar> ok
[19:44:38] <Jekkar> let's get to work
[19:44:42] <Induane> lol
[19:44:43] <sueastside> Now clean my boots and call me Lord sueastside
[19:44:44] <Induane> dorks
[19:44:56] <Induane> I need a pronoucing key for sueastside byw
[19:45:00] <Induane> btw*
[19:45:06] <sueastside> Induane: suicide
[19:45:14] <Induane> I always say sue east side like some sort of gangsta
[19:45:20] <sueastside> :)
[19:45:29] <Induane> oh umm cool.. ;)
[19:45:37] <sueastside> or call me Uncle Sue :)
[19:45:39] <Induane> I like my pronouncmentness better
[19:45:44] <Induane> A boy named sue!
[19:46:18] <sueastside> Induane: dont tell dragonrift, he still thinks im a girl :P
[19:47:06] <Induane> lol! :D
[19:48:06] * Jekkar is going crazy over here
[19:48:17] <sueastside> Jekkar: welcome to the club!
[19:48:39] <Jekkar> im still thinking about this texture man
[19:48:41] <Jekkar> its so bad
[19:48:51] <sueastside> stop rubbing it in!!
[19:49:01] <Jekkar> it looks like something spawned by Runescape
[19:49:04] <Jekkar> ok
[19:49:08] <Jekkar> just thought you should know
[19:49:32] <sueastside> i already know, thats why i asked you, and you said it looked oke :D
[19:49:49] <Induane> it looked ok in the screenshots color wise imo - never looked at them up close either myself
[19:50:30] <sueastside> CS renders very forgiving :P
[19:50:45] <Induane> lol
[19:50:58] <Induane> behind the rock and other rock photo's are small slivers of some wood
[19:51:01] <Induane> are those important ?
[19:51:09] <sueastside> no
[19:51:25] <Induane> k
[19:53:15] <Induane> that wood in the bottom right.. I think I stole that same texture online some time ago from imageafter or something
[19:53:16] <Induane> :)
[19:54:11] <Jekkar> >:(
[19:54:15] <Jekkar> >: ( *
[19:54:59] <Jekkar> dont steal!
[19:55:07] <Jekkar> make them yourselves
[19:58:44] <Jekkar> ow, i struck a nerve there?
[19:58:49] <Jekkar> bloody thieves!
[19:59:23] <sueastside> its free to use stuff, and im assembling a pc so was afk for a moment...
[20:00:06] <Jekkar> yeah, but it would be better if you made everything yourself
[20:00:14] <Jekkar> looks better too
[20:00:20] <sueastside> and Induane just says 'stole' cause it sounds cooler :P
[20:00:30] <sueastside> yeah, wish i could :(
[20:01:02] <Jekkar> there we go
[20:01:05] <Jekkar> roof is finished
[20:02:51] <Induane> I say stole cause its what people from the "eastside" do
[20:02:52] <Jekkar> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9902/roofgz3.jpg
[20:02:52] <Induane> ;)
[20:02:55] <Jekkar> do you see!
[20:03:06] <Jekkar> now compare it to the crappy photograph one
[20:03:08] <Induane> pretty uniform.
[20:03:14] <Induane> mess it up a bit :)
[20:03:32] <Jekkar> hey, you go outside
[20:03:34] <Induane> add some water streak stanes
[20:03:35] <Jekkar> look at your roof
[20:03:38] <Induane> stains*
[20:03:42] <Jekkar> and tell me how messed up it is
[20:03:43] <Induane> my roof is tar shingles
[20:03:48] <Jekkar> exactly!
[20:03:56] <Induane> and very screwy because the people can't make a straight line lol
[20:03:59] <Induane> cheap roofers
[20:04:32] <Induane> but I still think it could be a bit "dirtier"
[20:04:54] <Induane> otherwise fine
[20:04:55] <Jekkar> you can not appreciate the work we do Induane!
[20:04:58] <Jekkar> Demon!
[20:04:58] <Induane> lol!
[20:05:47] <Jekkar> too bad i HAVE to go watch soccer now
[20:06:02] <sueastside> soccer sucks, texturing rules!
[20:06:15] <Jekkar> ill dirty the texture up Induane
[20:06:25] <Induane> :D
[20:06:27] <Jekkar> even though I do not like the thought of hurting my little children!
[20:07:33] <Jekkar> goodbye now
[20:07:52] <Jekkar> dirty...tsss...
[20:08:02] <Jekkar> go and...go and make your simple models induane!
[20:09:37] <Induane> http://www.twisted-strand.com/ut_tutorials/text_tut/index5.html
[20:09:47] <Induane> its my dirty bible
[20:10:05] <Jekkar> hey
[20:10:08] <Jekkar> its dirty enough
[20:10:14] <Jekkar> you just want it to look screwed up
[20:10:23] <Jekkar> that means you need to add a wind effect to it
[20:10:26] <Jekkar> or puzzle effect
[20:10:28] <Jekkar> or whatever
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[20:13:09] <Induane> lol
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[20:31:26] * Induane hugs iceeey
[20:31:53] <sueastside> hey iceeey
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[20:33:17] <iceeey> hey Induane and |sueasts|
[20:37:41] <iceeey> i finally got my 3d acceleration working :P
[20:37:54] <iceeey> after it broke a few months ago
[20:37:54] <thebolt> :)
[20:38:27] <Induane> hehe
[20:38:34] <iceeey> can you imagine, life without 3d? ;)
[20:39:22] <Induane> what was wrong with it?
[20:40:43] <iceeey> libglx.so symlinked to an old driver causing undefined symbol on dlopen of libglx.so
[20:41:11] <Induane> ohhhh
[20:41:12] <Induane> ;)
[20:41:17] <Induane> sure sounds bad hehehe
[20:41:44] <iceeey> for some reason my distro downgraded drivers and ldconfig tried to keep the symlink to the older (higher version number0 one
[20:41:55] <thebolt> heh, nice :P
[20:42:55] <Induane> lol
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[20:48:27] <Induane> cs builds on edgy - well head does from a while ago
[20:48:46] <Induane> while = about 3 hrs
[20:49:22] <iceeey> well that's good
[20:49:56] <Induane> ohh.. didn't see renaud got it working ... shoulda read up a bit
[21:22:23] <Induane> http://vaalnor.mine.nu/roof.png dirtied up that roof texture
[21:34:55] <iceeey> hey looks pretty good
[21:35:02] <Induane> :)
[21:44:44] * sueastside cries
[21:44:56] * thebolt cries with sueastside .. this is painful
[21:45:51] <sueastside> thebolt: you also got your member stuck in your zipper?
[21:46:47] <thebolt> no.. but compared to this debugging that is heaven ;)
[21:47:33] <sueastside> :D
[21:48:05] <iceeey> print *m_member
[21:48:07] <iceeey> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
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[21:50:14] <sueastside> welkom terug Jekkar
[21:50:32] <Jekkar> aw crap, not another dutchman i hope
[21:51:02] <Jekkar> I just came by to say that those textures are screwed up beyond repair man
[21:51:03] <sueastside> no im one of the good guys, im from belgium :)
[21:51:16] <Induane> hehehe
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[21:51:20] <Jekkar> Belgium!
[21:51:23] <Jekkar> i love belgians
[21:51:36] <iceeey> they are good on my waffle
[21:51:36] <Jekkar> they call us Limburgers reserve-belgians
[21:53:01] <sueastside> Jekkar: just paint over everything :)
[21:53:28] <Jekkar> i kept the pieces i thought were still pretty well
[21:53:47] <Jekkar> everything is crooked though man
[21:53:54] <Jekkar> there's pieces running through eachother
[21:53:56] <Jekkar> crooked
[21:54:00] <Jekkar> edges cut off
[21:54:06] <Jekkar> bits of color that shouldnt be there
[21:54:18] <Jekkar> like some 8 year old had fun with a scissor and glue kit
[21:54:40] <Jekkar> :)
[21:54:51] * sueastside waves with one hand, cause the other one is attached to his face
[21:55:37] <Jekkar> and then i worry about criticism when i show off my textures
[21:56:13] <sueastside> wasnt a show off, you asked for it, you should have been prepared :P
[21:56:26] <Jekkar> :(
[22:00:02] <Jekkar> where in belgium sueastside?
[22:00:20] <sueastside> Jekkar: schiplaken tegen mechelen
[22:01:07] <Jekkar> want to eat a waffle with me tommorow?
[22:01:24] <sueastside> ill be at work :s
[22:01:27] <Jekkar> :(
[22:02:36] <sueastside> Jekkar: how close to me are you?
[22:03:12] <Jekkar> half an hour
[22:03:47] <Jekkar> car of course
[22:03:53] <iceeey> that's pretty far
[22:03:56] <iceeey> longitude or latitude?
[22:04:06] * sueastside slaps iceeey
[22:04:48] <Jekkar> http://route.anwb.nl/routeplanner/servlet/rp
[22:05:17] <Induane> I drive more than 30 minutes each way to work
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[22:15:18] <Jekkar> what's the white square doing in that texture Sueastside?
[22:15:24] <Jekkar> is it for an icecream?
[22:15:40] <sueastside> Jekkar: lantern glass :P
[22:15:48] <Jekkar> ah
[22:15:54] <Jekkar> right
[22:16:13] <Jekkar> great font on the signs btw
[22:16:28] <sueastside> forgive my incompetence...
[22:16:30] <Jekkar> :)
[22:16:56] <Jekkar> i hope the shading in-game covers all of this up
[22:17:04] <Induane> lol
[22:17:05] <Jekkar> or fog or something
[22:17:14] <Induane> :D
[22:17:24] <Induane> sueastside do you do texture baking very often?
[22:17:29] <Induane> its awsome for making cool textures
[22:17:37] <sueastside> Induane: err never..
[22:17:44] <Induane> I learned of it only a week ago
[22:17:45] <Induane> :D
[22:18:04] <sueastside> Jekkar: oke lets meet tomorrow, i feel like smacking you :P
[22:18:09] <Jekkar> hehe
[22:18:44] <Induane> Good ole Jekkar
[22:18:49] <Induane> Always a jerk
[22:18:52] <Induane> yet strangely loveable
[22:19:09] * Induane has vampirehunterlords flashbacks
[22:19:14] <Jekkar> then there's the tree bark in the middle bottom which has like 20 knots in it
[22:19:38] <Jekkar> ok, i'll stop
[22:19:42] <Jekkar> it's just too darn funny
[22:19:43] <Induane> looks like the same knot repeated like 8 ties
[22:19:45] <Induane> times*
[22:19:46] <Jekkar> yeah
[22:19:49] <Jekkar> thats what i mean :P
[22:19:55] <Induane> I can fix that
[22:19:57] <iceeey> haha
[22:19:59] <Jekkar> yeah me too
[22:20:05] <iceeey> me three
[22:20:08] <Jekkar> but just thought i should mention it
[22:20:08] <iceeey> me four
[22:20:24] <sueastside> i cant help it, i have textureitis
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[22:31:30] <Induane> whoops*
[22:31:33] * sueastside hugs Induane tightly
[22:31:39] <sueastside> Dont ever leave me again!
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[22:33:50] <sueastside> hey murat
[22:33:57] <murat> hey
[22:41:50] <Induane> hey murat what brimgs you here?
[22:42:24] <murat> hey Induane :)
[22:42:33] <murat> just trying all the projects uisng CS
[22:42:38] <Induane> ah
[22:43:00] <murat> and I have encountered some problems with PS
[22:43:09] <murat> so I have to be sure if the problem is PS or CS
[22:43:50] <Induane> what is your problem with cs?
[22:44:11] <murat> I am not sure if the problem cs or cel but Ps gives error
[22:46:25] <sueastside> which error?
[22:46:58] <murat> :
[22:47:01] <thebolt> hm.. but what does PS errors have to do with us? ..
[22:47:06] <murat> FATAL ERROR: Couldn't init Cel Manager.
[22:47:15] * thebolt would suggest talking to PS people for errors in PS ;)
[22:47:33] <murat> thebolt yeah, I wasnt talking about it here
[22:47:40] <murat> they asked, I replied
[22:47:44] <murat> :)
[22:49:24] <Induane> I think his error is not related to CS
[22:49:28] <Induane> either PS or CEL
[22:50:27] <murat> yes. that's why I am trying other projects using cs and cel
[22:51:45] <iceeey> try walktest and celtst
[22:52:47] <murat> they all are ok. just a warning about "cached lighting"
[22:55:45] <thebolt> would make it a PS error imo
[22:58:58] <sueastside> night
[22:59:48] <Induane> don't worry about the cached lighting errors alot of times
[22:59:50] <Induane> night sueastside
[23:00:12] <Induane> those are because it thinkgs some things need relit even though the lighting type doesn't require that at all
[23:00:26] <Induane> Probably old code from when thingmeshes were the most important :)
[23:02:24] <murat> :)
[23:02:57] <murat> so, I just wanna test cs and cel with other projects and then I saw peragro and loved the screenshots
[23:03:21] <murat> I am now checkingout the svn
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